- What is Marfan Syndrome? -- a big pain
in the ass.
Okay, aside from that . . .
- How did you learn that you had it?
- What if I think I (or a child I know)
have it?
- What have you done about it?
- So has this really affected your life?
- Might genetic testing make Marfan
Syndrome a thing of the past?
- Is Marfan Syndrome in the news at all?
- What are the latest advances in treating
Marfan Syndrome?
- Women and Marfan -- body image issues
- Where to learn more -- web sites and
mailing lists
Suppose I -- or a child I know -- have it, too.
Again, I will not recommend doctors through this website. I'm not an NMF
representative. I'm just your average workaday Jane who has the disorder.
If you have any serious questions, contact the
National Marfan Foundation and they
can help you locate a cardiologist who is familiar with the disorder.
If you go to a doctor who is unfamiliar with it or isn't up to speed
knowledge-wise, do not allow them to pooh-pooh your concerns. Go to
another doctor -- specifically a cardiologist who is familiar with Marfan
Syndrome. DO NOT ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE BRUSHED OFF. YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE TIME
TO SPARE WAITING PATIENTLY WHILE DOCTOR IGNORAMUS BRINGS THEMSELVES UP TO
SPEED. IF YOU SUSPECT THAT YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW IS AFFECTED BY MARFAN
SYNDROME, GET AN IMMEDIATE AND INFORMED DIAGNOSIS FROM A CARDIOLOGIST
WHO IS FAMILIAR WITH MARFAN SYNDROME. Marfan is all too commonly
diagnosed on autopsy; don't let this happen to you or someone you love.
Another important issue is revealed by the genetic nature of the disorder.
If a member of your immediate family (anyone you'd share DNA with) has died
suddenly of a fishy problem, get an autopsy
done. This can be a wrenching decision -- believe me, I know this
personally.
I know it's a gutwrenching decision, and the last thing you want to imagine
when you lose a loved one is someone somewhere cutting into their body. But
sudden young death is
not normal, and there are any number of things that can hasten it, and that
run in families. Get that autopsy.
It may be that you aren't wondering if you have it, but if your child or
a child you know has it. Diagnosing children brings up some issues that
are not present when diagnosing adults. Chances are, if you're an adult
and have just been diagnosed outside of an ER,
you've managed long enough without
treatment that you should have a good number of years ahead of you
as long as you take care of yourself. But diagnosing kids is a little
bit different.
Usually children are not diagnosed unless one or both of the following is
the case:
- One of the parents has it so they are looking specifically for signs, or
- The Marfan is severe enough to be noticeable even before the kid hits
puberty and suddenly becomes 6'5" tall.
This means that if your child has just been diagnosed out of the blue, there
is a chance that they will have more problems than your average adult who
was diagnosed at age 40, whose first question to their doctor after diagnosis
was, "What's Marfan Syndrome?"
Still, don't panic. Your child will need to get a raft of tests done, mostly
centering on the eyes and the heart (slit-lamp tests for the eyes, and an
echocardiogram for the heart), and they will have to cease most athletic
activity, including all team sports. Just gather as much information as you
can and find a doctor that can work with you, educating you and the child
so that you know what to expect. Marfan is nothing to sneeze at, but
don't empty the college fund just yet. ;-)
It's also important to realize that your child is going to have to deal with
life, and that that involves taking some small risks. Kids need to be kept
safe and healthy, but they need to have a life and friends as well. Depending
on the severity of your child's Marfan, you'll have to gauge what you need to
do to protect them until they can grow old enough to take responsibility for
their own health. It's vitally important to distinguish between the following
types of situations:
- "No, you can't play basketball because of your Marfan. I'm sorry, but
you can't."
- "No, you can't go to college out of state because I might worry about
you because of your Marfan."
The first is reasonable. The second is not. Just because your child has a
disability doesn't mean they will be (or should be) content to mope around
and limit their ambitions like a good little disabled person "should." Protect
your kids. Don't hamstring them.
If you have been informed that your child might have Marfan Syndrome,
and you do not wish to have them checked for it, you must immediately stop
living in denial. You may not want to learn that your child has a potentially
serious disorder, and you may think that not learning about it will keep it
from happening. You may be fearful of living with the uncertainty of having
a disabled child. But -- and I'm not going to sugarcoat this -- that fear
of living with a disorder will be nothing compared to the guilt
that will follow you to your grave if your child dies of a disorder,
and you know that it could have been prevented. Living with a disability is
living. If you suspect that your child has Marfan Syndrome, you
must have them evaluated. Marfan could kill them. The loss of a child is
always a particularly hard thing to deal with, and some parents of kids with
Marfan have lost their child to the disorder without even knowing what Marfan
was, or that their child had a genetic disorder. Could you imagine how much
worse that living hell will be for you if you have been warned, and did
nothing?
Am I going to die at 30?
A surprising number of websites are up about Marfan Syndrome, mostly because
of Abraham Lincoln and Pharaoh Akenaten, two historical figures that many
people believe may have been affected by Marfan Syndrome. In many of these
pages, written by people who are not up on the latest advances in medicine,
statements like the following may be found: "Marfan Syndrome is a crippling
disorder that kills most of those afflicted by it by age 30."
Well. That's cheerful. It's also inaccurate. Before the advent of
certain medications and surgical procedures, Marfan Syndrome did
indeed cut the human lifespan in half in many instances. It still does
for untreated Marfan. But the
prescription of beta blockers (medications to slow the heartbeat) and the
use of new techniques for aortic and cardiac reconstruction mean that the
lifespan for many people affected (not afflicted) by Marfan
Syndrome is around 70 nowdays. This means that half of all people with
Marfan Syndrome live past the age of 70!
Marfan Syndrome also comes in widely varying degrees of severity. Some people
are seriously affected by it and have had multiple surgeries by the time they
are 20, or even younger. Others have not, and their Marfan Syndrome means only
that they must avoid contact sports, use beta blockers, and get an
echocardiogram done every 6 months to monitor the size of their aorta.
Some people use canes, walkers, or wheelchairs, others do not. Some have
lost their vision partly or totally, others have not. And many people's
physical condition declines
as they get older, and as their cardiovascular and skeletal systems sustain
the stress of more and more years. For example, although I have not had
any heart surgery at this point, there is an excellent chance that I will
require it in the future as my aorta ages and loses its flexibility.
(It's also hard to predict the future with Marfan Syndrome. I've been left
relatively unharmed by it compared to many with the disorder. But that
doesn't mean that it can't land me in the emergency room next week, or even
tomorrow. When it comes to Marfan, you have to say "not yet" or "so far.")
Get evaluated if you suspect you have it -- seriously, as long as you monitor
your condition and are under a doctor's care, you stand every chance of
living a very full, active life. It's only when it is not
diagnosed that it can kill. It will affect your life, but it need not
rule your life.
PPO versus HMO -- which is better?
If your insurance plan is an HMO, you are required to visit a primary care
doctor, a generalist, before you can be referred to a specialist. This
adds paperwork and headaches, but the upside is that, if you have children,
very often your employer will cover them through the HMO without an increase
in your premiums, or without premiums at all. If you are in good health,
or have kids, this is often your best bet.
The PPO plan sometimes costs a little extra for an individual (at one place
of employment where I used to be, it was $37/mo), and can cost even more
to cover children -- around $100/mo or more. This added cost can make it
very expensive to cover a family, but the advantage of a PPO is that you
do not need a referral to visit a specialist. Since I have no kids
and do not plan on having any, this means that there was no special
paperwork needed for me to visit a cardiologist. Far from the mountain of
paperwork needed to visit a primary care doctor, get referred, then request
an appointment with a specialist, the only things I had to do were:
- Find a good cardiologist.
- Call him.
- Go.
That was it. With the special concerns of a Marfan patient, including the
periodic echocardiogram to check on the heart and aorta, the PPO plan
simplifies these visits considerably. It may cost a little extra for an
individual, but the freedom from the paperwork required by HMO plans is
often more than worth it. The receptionist at my cardiologist's office
said to me when I called for an appointment, "Uh, I'm not sure, you'll have
to go through a primary care doc--" before I said, "I have the PPO." Her
response was, "Oh, okay -- how about 3:30pm on the 22nd of March?"
Basically, what you want is to have as few steps as possible between you
and a specialist. And you want to learn as much as you can about your
insurance plan NOW. Don't be flipping through forms after you get an
enormous bill and aren't sure what to do with it. Sit your HR representative
down as soon as possible and make sure you unerstand who you can see, what
you'll be expected to pay, what hospital you can go to, what's covered, and what's not.
Children are a separate issue with PPO plans, and in the case of families,
the cost may be prohibitive. Single parents may have more of a problem
with this, since if you are married, you might be able to get the PPO for
yourself and cover your kids through your spouse's insurance.
However, if there is any way for you to get the PPO plan instead of the HMO,
I strongly encourage you to do it -- whether you have Marfan, allergies,
or any other sort of ailment that requires trips to a specialist.
It's worth it, believe me, just for the peace of mind, and it's especially
worth it for us, when many MDs are less familiar with our disorder than
we are, and hence getting a referral can be like pulling molars.
Top Eight Signs Your Doctor Is Going To Be The Death Of You, Literally
I don't want to be too flip about this, especially given that I've been
fortunate enough to find a really great cardiologist -- so good ones are
out there, even if they are rarer than they should be.
But still -- Marfan Syndrome is rarer than many other disorders, and a
lot of doctors either aren't familiar with it, or aren't willing to be
taught by a patient just what's involved. Given that Marfan Syndrome
is too often diagnosed by a coroner, this can be fatal.
If you suspect you have Marfan Syndrome, or if you do have Marfan
Syndrome, and you've heard anything like the following out of your
doctor's mouth, it's a good sign that you need to get another doctor.
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What You Might Hear
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The Straight Dope
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"Oh, I wouldn't worry about it. Marfan Syndrome isn't that much to
be concerned with."
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In truth, untreated Marfan Syndrome cuts the human lifespan in half.
Marfan Syndrome is indeed a problem, and depending on your own level
of impairment, one that may need urgent surgical intervention.
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"Well, it looks like you have a dilated aorta, bad eyesight, and skin and
skeletal signs, and you have two family members who have been positively
diagnosed, including one who died, but I really don't think you have it."
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Translation: I don't know much about this, so you must not have it. Wrong.
Get another doctor, and fast.
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"That's nothing, really -- 52mm is a perfectly normal diameter for
your aorta."
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Wrong. 52mm is definitely dilated, and surgery is advised at 50mm.
Also, the diameter of the aorta isn't necessarily as important as the
rate at which it's dilating. If you're stable for ten years at
40mm, that's much better than going from 32mm to 37mm in a year. An
aorta that's noticeably widening is an aorta that wants to rupture.
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"Beta blockers? I wouldn't bother."
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The prevailing medical opinion, and this can be checked at the
NMF's web site, is that all
Marfan patients should be medicated with beta blockers to mitigate the
wear and tear on the aorta. Why wait until you need to get your
aorta removed and replaced before doing something about it? The more
you mitigate the stress on it, the less likely you'll need major
surgery in ten years. And there are currently so many different kinds
of beta blockers on the market that you're very likely to find one
that works well for you.
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"You're too young to be worrying about osteoporosis."
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There is a significant amount of research that indicates that people
with Marfan Syndrome do not absorb nutrients in our food as efficiently
as others do, and this counts for calcium. When it comes to a disorder
that results in overlong bones, inefficient muscle insertion, and a
tendency not to absorb calcium, it means that a 20 year old with Marfan
can have a worse bone density than 75% of postmenopausal women.
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"I've never operated on a Marfan patient, but I'm willing to try!"
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Let them "try" on someone else. Operating on someone with Marfan
Syndrome isn't always like operating on a normal person. Stitches must
often be left in for longer, and tied more strongly, to account for the
weakness of the scar tissue that will form, and this is only one example
of the vagaries of operating on a Marfan patient. There are surgeons
who you can find (by joining the
Marfan List
and asking around) who have done many more surgeries on people with
Marfan. You should never have any kind of surgery done, even if it's
just a tonsillectomy, unless you have complete confidence in your
surgeon's skills.
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"No, pregnancy shouldn't be a problem."
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Pregnancy for a woman with Marfan is a nontrivial undertaking. A great
deal of monitoring will be necessary to make sure that your aorta is
not widening noticeably during your pregnancy. If echocardiograms
show that your aorta is getting noticeably larger, there is a strong
possibility that you will dissect before delivery. Also, there are
many issues surrounding the medications that you may need to take as
a woman affected with Marfan and whether they enter the placenta or
the breast milk. Beta blockers, for example, cross into the breast
milk, and coumadin, heparin, or any of the other anticoagulants you may
need to take if you have had a heart valve replacement can also
complicate your pregnancy and delivery.
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"I wouldn't worry, hon -- it's not unattractive."
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Punch him in the mouth.
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I/my friend was misdiagnosed/died/almost died from an aortic event!
Believe me, I've heard it, and I hate it every time.
One of the most frustrating things about
putting up this website is the heartbreaking stories I get about people
who were misdiagnosed by doctors and died, or nearly died.
It's appalling. So far,
and keep in mind that these are only the instances I can think of off
the top of my head, I've heard from:
- A woman who got an aneurysm a week after delivering her daughter. She
was sent home from an ER and later dismissed by a supposed "vascular expert."
11 months after her dissection -- and no, that is not a typo --
she got an x-ray for another condition that revealed an enormous aneurysm
that was perilously close to bursting. Emergency surgery saved her life.
- The friend of
a woman who went to the ER in the middle of a dissection, asking to
be admitted. She was sent home even after pleading to be allowed to stay,
and died on the way home from the ER in a friend's car.
- A person who was diagnosed by a ER doctor as having "migraine anxiety"
and sent home. I don't know of many migraines that result in a foot-long
scar on your chest.
- A 23 year old girl who was handed antibiotics when she went into the
ER with searing pain in her midsection and was found dead by her mother
a few days later.
There have been more. These are only the ones that I can think of
easily. If this has happened to a friend or family member of yours or
if it nearly happened to you, you might want to consider legal action
so that the next person with undiagnosed Marfan Syndrome doesn't have
to go through the same thing. While I can't advise you on that (I'm
not a lawyer), I can at least direction you to the August 1999 entry in the
Marfan in the News section where I mention the
settlement that the parents of Tony-award-winning playwright
Jonathan Larson won against the hospitals that misdiagnosed their late
son. I also encourage you to check with the
National Marfan Foundation and
see if they have any advice for you, and good luck.
And I must urge you to consider some sort of action even if you or the
person in question survived. The same doctor might make the same mistake
with a new patient, who might not be lucky enough to survive. If you
were misdiagnosed by any doctor, walk up to them and show them your
chest scar. Bring an x-ray with you. Don't fear telling them they screwed
up; they were supposed to guard your health and life, and they didn't
do it. They have gone through worse in medical school, they can tolerate
having a patient they misdiagnosed pull up their shirt and go, "SEE?!"
at them. You could save the life of the next person in line.
I have mild Marfan -- I should be okay, right?
Well, that depends. Is there such a thing as a mild open heart surgery?
When it comes to a disorder that affects the skeleton, heart, and eyes,
there really is no such thing as "mild." Marfan is Marfan. "Mild" means that
you might not dissect at age 30, but might hold on for another whopping five
years and dissect at 35. Whoopee. Keep in mind that this is a disorder that
routinely drops people in their tracks in their mid-20s. Compared to
that, four-hour long open-heart surgery that leaves you with more
plastic in your heart than you have in your wallet
is the mild form.
When you have Marfan, a basic construction component of your body isn't
made correctly. Think of your car -- if it's made of weak material, the
systems that fail first are going to be the ones that sustain the most
mechanical stress, and the ones with the most finicky, tiny moving parts.
In a car, that's the suspension, transmission, and maybe the turbocharger,
if you have one. Doesn't matter if the tranny gives out at 20K or 30K;
you've still got a lemon on your hands. And either way, if you know ahead
of time, you can drive more cautiously and gently. Don't use the clutch
to stop on a hill, and your car will last longer.
Marfan is the same way. Think about it -- if your body is made of sub-par
building materials, the systems that will fail first are, like the car, the
ones that sustain the most mechanical stress (heart and skeleton) and the
ones with the tiniest moving parts (the eye). And just as with the car, if
your heart gives out at 30 instead of 20, you've still got a problem on your
hands. You'll have to treat your body gently and take beta blockers.
There just isn't any such thing as a "mild" ailment when three such
crucial body systems are involved. "Mild" heart surgery is still heart
surgery. "Mild" eye surgery still risks blindness. And -- trust me on
this one -- a "mild" orthopedic problem will still send bolts of pain up
your head from a pinched nerve, and ortho surgery might as well be
carpentry. Take your Marfan seriously. I'm not saying that we're
all walking time bombs, and certainly Marfan comes in varying severities.
But you do want to remain conscious of it and not blow it off.
"We're going to have a child and I/my spouse has Marfan Syndrome.
What are the chances that the infant will inherit it?"
The chances that a child will inherit Marfan Syndrome if one parent
has it are 50%, no more no less. It's literally a coin toss. The
chances increase to 75% if both parents have Marfan, with a 25% chance
that the Marfan may be of a more serious variety.
Why, you ask? It's the nature of the genetics. It's not too hard to
understand.
Genes work in pairs -- for example, you get a gene from your mom
to determine your blood type, and one from your dad to determine your
blood type. Depending on what you get from them and what the rules are
for how those genes interact, that determine what your blood type
is.
Again, genes work in pairs, and you get one each from each parent. If
one parent (PARENT B) does not have Marfan, then both of their copies of C15-FBN1,
which they inherited from their parents, are normal. If the other
parent (PARENT A) has Marfan, however, they have one good version of C15-FBN1 and
one bad one -- one with typos on it. The figure below shows what
they could contribute to an infant, and what the result would be:
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PARENT A
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P A R E N T
B
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G
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B
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G
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GG |
GB |
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G
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GG |
GB |
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GG = no Marfan.
GB = Marfan.
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You can see that two out of four times, the child will not have Marfan;
it will always inherit a good copy from the unaffected parent
(PARENT B)
and stands a 50% chance of inheriting a bad copy from the affected
parent (PARENT A). Since you only need one bad copy of the gene to have Marfan,
that means that the infant stands a 50% chance of having Marfan
Syndrome.
The second figure below shows what could happen if both parents
have Marfan. One out of four times, the child will get the good
gene from both parents. Half of the time (two out of four) the child
will get a good gene and a bad gene, and have Marfan. And one out of
four times, the child will inherit a bad gene from both parents, and
stand a chances of a more severe form of Marfan.
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PARENT A
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P A R E N T
B
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G
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B
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G
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GG |
GB |
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B
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GB |
BB |
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GG = no Marfan.
GB = Marfan.
BB = More serious Marfan.
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In summary,
if one parent is affected, a child stands a 50% chance -- an even tossup --
of having Marfan. If both parents are affected, the child
stands a 25% chance of not having Marfan Syndrome, a 50% of having
"garden variety" Marfan, and a 25% chance of
having not only Marfan, but a more severe form.
"Neither I nor my spouse have Marfan, but our child has just been
diagnosed with it. What could I have done?"
When any parent learns that there is something amiss medically with their child,
the first thing they will ask themselves is usually, "Was it anything I did?"
It's natural, and in this case, it's very important to realize that you
did nothing wrong.
It wasn't that glass of white wine you had before
you found out you were pregnant, it wasn't
because you played
a game of touch football when you were in your fourth month, it wasn't
because you were fifteen years older than your wife. It wasn't any
of that.
The fact is that reproduction is not a trivial thing. Creating a human being
out of two tiny little cells that come together, each with only half of the
instructions, is an enormously complex process. It's amazing that it happens
at all, really. Things can go wrong just out of random chance.
Also, consider that if DNA mutations didn't occur, we would still be
australopithecine apes trying to outrace antelopes on the savannah and
being occasionally eaten by leopards. The process of mutation by which changes
are introduced into our DNA at random is the whole process of life. It's
the means by which entire species develop. It's the whole mechanism behind
the diversity of life, and there is simply no stopping it. Mutations
happen. It's the basic process of life that has been operating for
eons, literally. Some mutations do nothing, some very few others move the
species in a positive direction -- making us darker or lighter to protect us
from the sun or allow us to live in cold climates, for example.
And some mutations do bad things. It's random chance, and unfortunately
it landed on you and your family. But we are talking about a mechanism that
has been operating quite literally since the dawn of life on Earth. That
is most definitely not something you can take any blame for whatsoever, and
it's not something that one little person can stop or avert.
So go easy on yourself. You've got a lot of stuff to learn and prepare for
if you have a child with Marfan, but at the very least, I can assure you
that it was not in any way, shape, or form your fault. There was nothing
you could have done. The process of evolution is much bigger and older than
you -- don't go blaming yourself because tiny, little you couldn't stop this
process that's been working for millions of years.
What have you done about it?
The absolute first thing that you must do right now, you click on this link
right now or else I'll pop you one, is sign up with
MedicAlert to get yourself some
tags identifying you as having Marfan Syndrome. The worst symptom of
Marfan Syndrome, the ruptured aorta, is absolutely fatal without
immediate surgery; any delay in recognizing the symptom for what it is
can cost a patient their life. And many emergency room paramedics are not
familiar with what is admittedly a rare condition; if you have Marfan
Syndrome, you have far more knowledge probably than the people who will
be treating you in those first few minutes. The MedicAlert tags can
identify you as having Marfan Syndrome, along with two other lines of
information, and the service provides a 24-hour phone number for paramedics
to call to get information about your medical history. Getting MedicAlert
tags should quite literally be the first thing you do when you get home
from a positive evaluation by a specialist. Call 1-800-825-3785 to
register; the service costs $35/yr.
Once you are evaluated, your doctor may do any number of things. He or
she may prescribe beta blockers for you -- these are drugs which lower
your blood pressure and heart rate in order to lessen the stress on your
aorta and prevent rupture. Be aware that too high of a dose can sort of
dope you out. If you feel dopey while on your beta blockers, tell your
doctor, and he or she can lower your dosage to where it can leave you
unaffected but still protected, or try a medication that doesn't make you
wonky.
Beta Blockers
On the whole, beta blockers are fairly well-understood medications and are
prescribed all the time for high blood pressure. My mother takes them,
and suffers no ill effects. They are often best taken with orange juice,
which disgusts me, but oh, well -- and it's often
recommended that you take something with potassium in it as well. Don't
take supplements, that's a bad idea. Eat a banana (if you can choke one
of the foul things down). If like me, you despise the things, stick one
in a blender with some ice cream and a little chocolate sauce and make
yourself a nice shake. For a more healthful alternative, get a banana and
some frozen strawberries and blend them up with some ice cubes to make a
smoothie.
Okay, that answers how to take them. But why?
Why do Marfan patients need them? And what do they do?
In Marfan
Syndrome, the heart valves are not ideal, and the aorta is less flexible
than normal. These problems force the heart to beat harder and faster to
compensate -- which stress the valves more, which make the heart beat
faster, etc. It's a vicious cycle. Since the heart is mechanically
non-ideal, it tries to overwork itself to compensate. Therefore, it must be
artificially slowed down to keep this vicious cycle from starting, or else
it can effectively suffer a lifetime's worth of heart activity and wear and
tear in only 40 or so years, as happened to my father.
The beta blockers help to ameliorate this.
There are several different kinds of beta blockers, and the following table
will help you understand what each one does.
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Beta 1 (Cardioselective)
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Beta 2 (Non-cardioselective)
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The ones typically
prescribed for Marfan Syndrome (called "cardioselective" beta blockers)
work by blocking the neurotransmitters that typically tell
your heart to start beating faster. Neurotransmitters are chemicals that
your body uses to trigger various other parts of your body to activity.
Epinephrine is the one that is used to accelerate the heart rate, increase the
blood pressure, and just generally revv up the heart.
Cardioselective
Beta 1 blockers bind to the sites on your heart that are stimulated by
these neurotransmitters, preventing them from landing there and speeding
things up. It's a little like sticking some wax into a keyhole to prevent
a key from fitting there and opening the lock, except that the effect wears
off after a while. Thus, you can't just take beta blockers once but have
to keep taking them. Taking them doesn't mean that your heart rate can't
react to your body's signals to speed up. It just means that it can't go
overboard.
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Non-cardioselective beta blockers work not only on the heart but on
all involuntary muscles, called smooth muscles. These are all
the muscles in your body that your brain runs without your effort or
attention, like your heart, diaphragm, stomach muscles, all that stuff.
And since these are all governed by neurotransmitters as well, the
receptor sites in these areas can also be blocked.
Since
your heart is among the involuntary muscles in your body, it is also
slowed and relaxed with the use of this class of beta blockers. However
for the purposes of Marfan Syndrome, when the problem that you're trying
to alleviate is so centered on the heart, this blanket effect is too broad.
The cardioselective Beta 1's do the job just fine.
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Possible Side Effects
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The most common side effects include things like tiredness, dizziness,
and mild depression. Some others can include short-term memory problems
or trouble sleeping. If you have any of these, be sure to let your doctor
know. If they start interfering with your lifestyle, you can try another
medication, and there's lots of different kinds of beta blockers, so you
should be able to find one that works for you.
It may take a while for possible side effects to materialize. I took
atenolol for about two and a half years before it started screwing with my
short-term memory and made even the normally cynical and dour me depressed
to the point where I noticed. I've recently been switched to metoprolol,
and will be sure to note any positive or negative effects here.
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It's important to realize that when you first begin taking beta blockers,
you will be tired for a bit as your body adjusts to a more normal heart
rate, considerably slower and less forceful than what it's been used to
up until now. You may tire more easily for the first month or so, and I've
found that my hands tend to be cold as well. In my case, the tiredness
wasn't anything I couldn't shrug off or work past. These symptoms typically
go away after a month or two. Your doctor may want to start you out on a
lower dose and increase it as he or she wishes, as opposed to starting you
out on too high a dose, which may make you feel dopey or slow. Make sure
to tell your doctor how you're doing, and always take the pills. Don't
skip a dose. If you miss one, take it as soon as you realize it, but don't
take two at once to make up for a skipped dose.
Once you're on the beta blockers, do not stop taking them. You could
experience a rebound whereby your heart rate and blood pressure skyrocket
in reaction to the sudden absence of the medication. This could be
disastrous. If you do need to be taken off your beta blockers, your
doctor will do it gradually by weaning you off of them. This sort of
medication should only be halted under a doctor's supervision.
And make sure that you research any herbal/prescription interactions
before you take herbal supplements. Many of these interact in dangerous
ways with prescription medications, exaggerating or nullifying their
effectiveness, or creating unpleasant side effects. Check out
the Natural Medicines
comprehensive Database to learn more, and make sure that your doctor
knows about the herbals that you take, if any.
Many people believe or have heard that beta blockers cause sexual dysfunction
(the inability to maintain an erection or decreased libido). This is more
the case with non-cardioselective beta blockers and not the
cardioselective ones that would be prescribed for Marfan Syndrome. If you are
concerned about sexual side effects, and this concern is keeping you from
taking beta blockers for hypertension or Marfan Syndrome,
see your doctor, and let him or her know that you have concerns about sexual
function.
More information about beta blockers can be found at
HeartInfo
and
Marshall Univ. School of Medicine.
Anticoagulants (for people who have mechanical heart implants)
For anyone who has had a heart valve replaced, not just Marfan patients,
anticoagulants are often part of their lives. What are they? In order to
understand that, we've got to understand how the blood works.
In the section of this site that looked at the
heart, we learned that the blood
does a bunch of stuff -- exchanges oxygen for carbon dioxide, exchanges
nutrients for waste products, and delivers white blood cells to infected
areas. Well, there's one more thing it does -- it plugs holes, or forms
clots.
When you cut your finger, even smoothly like a paper cut, the edges of the
hole are actually very jagged and uneven microscopically. Your blood
will start to leak out through the hole when you bleed -- but unless you
have certain blood disorders, it'll stop eventually. This is because the
blood naturally forms clots, just rough globs, around what it recognizes
as unnatural jagged edges. These clots gum up the hole and prevent any more
blood from leaking out, and then your body takes over and creates new skin
to seal it up.
So your
blood forms clots on unnaturally uneven surfaces, and it's a good thing it
does, or else we'd bleed to death from a scratch.
The interior of your blood vessels and heart is covered with a layer of what
are called "epithelial cells," sort of like Teflon for your cardiovascular
system. It provides a nice natural smooth surface for your blood to flow
past, and your blood won't clot on it. That's why your blood doesn't just
spontaneously clot up inside of you.
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Put something unnatural in there though, and clots are a definite possibility.
A mechanical heart valve may look smooth to the eye and feel smooth to the
touch, but under a microscope you can see jutting edges and burrs
that would look like a mountain to something as small as a blood cell. So
your blood will want to stick to these places, believing them to be jagged
edges that have to be sealed up.
Of course, they aren't really, so the clots just keep building up until
they get too big and break off . . . and go someplace else and block the
normal flow of blood, causing injury. It's like a lump of hair and gunk
in your sink trap that breaks loose and flows downstream until the pipe narrows
to the point where it gets stuck and blocks the plumbing.
One of the most significant dangers about
blood clots that exit the heart is the possibility of a stroke -- which is
what you call a blood flow blockage in the brain. The first major organ that
your blood enters after exiting your heart is your brain.
So, if a clot forms in the left side of
your heart, it's very likely to head to your brain first,
which is a Bad Thing. And the heart valves on the left side are the ones
that are most often replaced with mechanical analogues. (Blood clots that
form on the right side end up in the lungs, which is definitely a serious
problem, but not as crucial as one that can cripple your brain.)
So how do you avoid having blood clots form? Blood does that naturally, and
at this point in time, we can't create artificial heart valves that are
smooth enough to keep clots from forming on them. The only way to avoid
blood clots at this point once you have a mechanical heart valve implanted
is to take special medications called
anticoagulants, most often Coumadin, Heparin, or Warfarin. These
medications prevent your blood's natural clotting process from occurring.
And to anticipate your next question, yes -- this does interfere with the
natural process of clotting that you want to take place if you should cut
yourself. For this reason, people who take anticoagulants do have to be
more careful, and taking the medications themselves is definitely more
involved than taking beta blockers, where you just pop the pill and have
done with it. People who are on anticoagulants often must monitor their
blood clotting time similar to a diabetic monitoring their blood sugar.
And while people who are on anticoagulants don't need to control their diet
nearly so tightly as a diabetic, they definitely must be aware of what they
eat.
The reason for this is simple -- many food items contain varied amounts of
Vitamin K, and this is a vitamin that your body particularly uses to help
your blood clot well. Dark green vegetables are often high in K, and
eating them can increase your blood's clotting ability, which would change
the effectiveness of the anticoagulants. Other foods, such as red wine,
thin the blood and make it clot less well -- and taking anticoagulants in
that case could cause problems since the blood could be too thin.
Healthy balance is the order of the day with anticoagulants. You must be
more aware of what you're eating -- but you don't need to be ruled by it.
What you want to do is not so much avoid all foods that affect your blood's
clotting, but balance them. You want to try a spinach pastry? Drink some
red wine along with it. What's needed is for you to be aware of how much
Vitamin K or red wine you're taking in, so that your medication can account
for it -- and you must be aware of your clotting time.
You should also be careful with herbal supplements when taking Coumadin.
For example, gingko biloba taken together with Coumadin can cause spontaneous
bleeding. You can learn more about herbal/prescription interactions at
the Natural Medicines
Comprehensive Database. In general, don't mess with herbals when
you're on something as heavy as a blood-thinner without doing serious
research about interactions, and follow your doctor's recommendations.
It's also important to realize that many heart surgeries do not require that
you remain on anticoagulants for the rest of your life. If you have a
mechanical valve implant, yes -- you will be taking the medications
permanently. But if you have only some of your aorta replaced in a
valve-sparing procedure, you need only take them until your body
grows a covering of epithelial cells in the interior of the replacement
aorta, like an oyster covering its inside shell with mother-of-pearl. (This
usually takes a few months, and the process is called
epithelialization.) If
you have a porcine valve implant (a pig heart valve) or a homograft (a donor
valve from a dead human), you will not need to remain on anticoagulants since
the surfaces of nature, unlike those that are manufactured, are smooth
enough to prevent clotting. Unlike a smooth tube of dacron that is used to
replace the aorta or valve replacements that come from living organisms,
the hard surfaces of a mechanical heart valve are always
in motion, clicking open and shut, and they are also rougher than the interior
of the dacron tube. As a result, the surfaces of a mechanical heart valve
will not epithelialize.
Pig valves and homografts, however, usually wear out after about ten years
or so (they are after all, dead tissue and not living tissue since they
came from a pig or human cadaver), and are normally replaced after about
a decade of use.
Anticoagulants also affect how you are handled prior to surgery as well,
since you are going to be cut open. Although this is definitely
a concern, it's one that surgeons have dealt with for a long time now, so
it's not like surgery while on anticoagulants is something that doctors
can't deal with. Pregnancy while on anticoagulants is also another complicated
issue since some bleeding is to be anticipated
during delivery, and since you have to be aware
of the possibility of drugs crossing the placenta and entering the fetus.
And new techniques are being developed to prevent the need for mechanical
heart valve implants altogether. The first aortic valve replacement was
in 1960, by Dr. Dwight Harken. The first mitral valve replacement was
shortly after that by Dr. Nina Braunwald. Today, techniques that are under
development include growing new valves from your
own DNA! Now, when you have Marfan, these spiffy
grown valves aren't going to be top
notch to start with -- but combined with gene therapy to replace the typo
in the relevent section of DNA, a new and healthy heart valve can be grown
from your own DNA. It would not have to be replaced later since it would be
made of living tissue and not cadaver tissue, and there would be no risk of
rejection! It's one more reason to take your beta blockers and moderate your
physical activity, because the longer you can stave off the need for a heart
valve replacement, the more chance that options like these will be present
for you when you are older.
More information about anticoagulants can be found at
HeartInfo.
Sports and Lifestyle
Another thing that you'll want to do is avoid contact sports (just about
all team sports, unfortunately, including basketball). Anything where
you might hit the ground, floor, wall, or another person with some force
counts as a contact sport and can cause heart problems, or a detached
retina. Many of us are incredibly unathletic anyhow so that's not much
of a sacrifice (damn, there goes my guest spot on American Gladiators),
but some are, and this can present difficulty.
It is especially important
in sports like basketball and volleyball, where a long reach and height
are seen as assets. Many young people with Marfan Syndrome are naturally
attracted to these sports -- both of which are out of the question for us,
unfortunately. Competitive endeavors like
riflery and archery, as well as walking and moderate
swimming and
cycling should be all right, but definitely check with your doctor, and
when in doubt, don't push it. In summary, there are
plenty of things you can do to let your competitive spirit out for a roar
that won't stress your aorta -- I'm a prime example. Although I have Marfan
Syndrome, I've also got an instinctive need to butt heads, and I love target
shooting (I'm 20/20 with corrective lenses), and pool.
Keeping your teeth in good shape
This is usually surprising to most people, but the health of your heart
depends on the health of your teeth, much more than you'd think. You've
heard of plaque, both on your teeth, and in your arteries -- and there's
a reason why it's called by the same name. It's the same stuff, believe it
or not.
When I was a kid, dentists worked barehanded. If you're as old as I am or
older, you may remember this yourself and even remember, as I do, when
dentists started wearing rubber gloves. The gloves came out at about the
same time as the news broke about Barney Clark, the world's first artificial
heart recipient. He had been ill from heart problems for years, had
suffered several heart attacks, and his heart was enlarged to a frightening
size to compensate for the fact that most of it was composed of scar tissue,
incapable of pumping as it should.
And Barney Clark had been a dentist for years. Dentists routinely have more
severe heart problems than any other medical profession.
Those many, long years of putting their bare hands in people's mouths make
it highly likely that they'll catch bacteria that go into
their bloodstreams -- the same bacteria that create the plaque on the
teeth of their patients. And that bacteria is very antagonistic towards the
heart.
This is why people with heart problems (including those affected by
Marfan Syndrome) must take antibiotics before having major dental work done.
The bacteria that resides on the surface of your teeth, the same bacteria
that transform food particles into that hard yellowish crap that has to be
scraped off, could do damage to your heart if they get into your bloodstream
and find their way there. They can attack the heart valves, and they can
cause plaque to build up in your blood vessels the same way they cause it to
build up on your teeth.
And if your gums bleed routinely, say when you're brushing your teeth, that
means that that bacteria in your mouth has plenty of opportunity every minute
of every day of your life, to get into your bloodstream, find its way to your
heart, and start some mischief.
What does this mean? Take care of your teeth! Brush after each meal, floss,
and get your three month cleaning religiously. Your heart will thank you
for it. It's not quite "FLOSS OR DIE!" but it's not too far off.
Alternative Medicine and Marfan Syndrome
There's a lot of dissatisfaction with Western medicine lately, because of
a variety of things. Add together the lack of bedside manner or empathy of
many doctors, the spiralling costs of health care, the sometimes arbitrary
coldness of many insurance companies, and the persistence of many illnesses
like cancer in the face of technology, and you wind up with a general grumpy
dislike of medicine and health care professionals. That's probably been the
biggest pain the backside for me so far regards my own Marfan Syndrome -- I
know a lot more about insurance than any of my able-bodied friends, because
I need to understand the piddly irritating details before an emergency
situation rears its ugly head.
And many of us with Marfan Syndrome
have had, shall I say, less-than-wonderful experiences with Western doctors
dismissing us, patronizing us, or merely round-filing us as hypochondriacs.
But when you stop to consider that the lifespan for people with Marfan
Syndrome has almost doubled in a little over ten years thanks to the
efforts of Western doctors, you realize that as least where some things are
concerned, Western medicine seems to be pretty well on the ball. Western
medicine and doctors are at their best when something definitive is "wrong"
or "broken," and in emergency situations. Where Western medicine stumbles
is dealing with chronic conditions, many without a clear cause. Back pain.
Diabetes. That sort of thing.
Be that as it may,
many people are seeking alternatives, from crystal healing to acupuncture
to nutritional analysis.
The major problem that I see with this is that a lot of people are lumping
everything that is not traditional Western medicine together and
putting them all on the same level, from crystal healing (which to my mind
has absolutely no merit whatsoever aside from the understandably pleasant
nature of lying in a quiet room with pretty music playing and no scalpels
in sight), to acupuncture (which appears to have serious merit), to good
nutrition (which should make good sense to anyone). It's important not to
ashcan Western medicine entirely, nor to fall whole-hog for anything that
smacks of alternative medicine. Simply because a type of medicine is done
by people who are not ethnic Westerners doesn't mean that it's New Age
mysticism or something outside of the realm of Western science.
And it's also important to keep in mind that "herbal" doesn't always mean
"no side effects."
Many "herbal supplements" are indeed drugs and may have a
profound effect on you. Just because something doesn't have a long, tongue
twisting chemical name doesn't mean it won't have an effect on your body.
For example, the popular dietary supplement Metabolife contains ephedrine,
a neurotransmitter the purpose of which is speeding up your heart -- precisely
the stuff that your beta blockers are supposed to work against! Chewing
willow bark helps with headaches because it contains some of the same chemicals
as aspirin. And many herbs and plants will out-and-out kill you. If it's
going to affect your body, it's important to approach it with care and even
skepticism, whether you're talking about native American herbs or something
from your local pharmacist.
Also, if you are interested in pursuing alternative medical treatments, please
keep going to a Western doctor as well. The AMA might be "officially"
uninterested in alternative medicine, but many doctors don't share that
lack of interest.
Most doctors are curious themselves
about alternative treatments and would certainly be interested if you
discover that a certain acupuncturist has given you relief from your back
pain. And there are many symptoms of Marfan Syndrome (such as the dilated
aorta) that so far only Western medicine can deal with properly.
Alternative treatments that I would recommend for people with Marfan include the
following:
- Acupuncture: Whatever "chi" energy is, this really does
seem to help with joint and back pain for a lot of people. Definitely
check it out. Make sure you find someone with good references. Effective
as acupuncture is, it does seem to attract more than its fair share of
New Age airheads. But a good one can be worth their weight in gold.
- Proper Nutrition: It's silly to include this in a list
of "alternatives," since good eating is basic to good health by any
standard. But many people with Marfan have calcium deficiency and
osteoporosis, and hence we should make a point of getting calcium in our
diets. Be aware, though -- we may also have a problem absorbing it in
general, and hence eating it might not do us any good, not matter how many
supplements we take. The jury's still out on this one.
- Massage: I still remember going to a chiropractor for
a massage in Santa Barbara, when my neck was wrenched and my head had been
throbbing for days. I got up off that table with no headache at all, and
no pain in my neck. It was astonishing, and man did it feel good. Make sure
that if you go the full route to chiropractic adjustment that you find a
good chiropractor who is familiar with Marfan Syndrome! A bad one can
f*ck you up six ways from Sunday, particularly if he or she doesn't know the
problems that arise when dealing with Marfan joints. I once went to a
chiropractor in San Diego who had never heard of Marfan Syndrome who
promptly did a very forceful and sudden "adjustment" to my sternum
that left me gasping. If my aorta had been at risk for rupture, it probably
would have done so right on the table.
Alternative treatments that I don't feel can stand on their own without the
added intervention of Western medicine
(and please be aware that this is
only my opinion) include the following.
If you pursue any of these avenues, please keep
seeing a modern doctor in the meantime. And get an echocardiogram.
- Crystal Healing: The only benefit from this comes from
lying in a quiet room with pretty stones around you and nice music playing.
Now, that's not to be sneezed at, but you can get the same thing from going
to the symphony and the natural history museum.
- Reiki and other supposed "energy" or "aura" adjustments: Again, it's pleasant to the senses, but that isn't
enough, or else a good plate of homemade lasagne and a half-dozen cannoli
could cure you.
- Hard-core nutritional analysis: You know, you can eat as
much raw foods or protein as you want, but if your DNA is loused up, your
body still isn't going to be able to make fibrillin properly. Again,
good nutrition can certainly improve anyone's health, but it will not
cure you.
Keep in mind that I'm not saying that these therapies can't have value, just
that they aren't going to replace Western medicine any time soon. Just as I
am not about to substitute Reiki for taking my beta blockers, I wouldn't want
to live a life without lasagne and cannoli either. :-) I don't think that
any of the above treatments have any real medical merit, but if they relax
you and you enjoy them, hell -- that counts, too. Just don't substitute
them for traditional medicine.
And unfortunately, there are a lot of "snake oil" quack medications being
touted to "repair" DNA and "correct" mutations. They are, without exception,
garbage. "Repairing" and "correcting" DNA is the sort of thing that is done
with heavy-duty, extremely complex gene therapy in hospitals with mountains
of insurance paperwork and an army of doctors and nurses in attendance.
Any little bottle of liquid that promises to repair your DNA is a scam, I
can promise you. Hospitals are scary and expensive, medical insurance is
frightening, and far too many doctors can have appalling bedside manners, but
please don't allow your very understandable fears of all that leave you
open to being preyed upon by quacks out to make a quick buck.
And if you feel motivated to write to me and tell me how offended you are
that your snake oil has been insulted, and that your quack bottle
of tap water can repair my DNA, be prepared for a cold reception. Your little
bottles of snake oil
kill people by preventing them from getting the legitimate medical
treatment that they need. I can only wonder how you can live with your
conscience knowing that you are causing people who are at risk for sudden and
unanticipated death to forsake treatments that could save their lives in order
to fatten your bank account, all for the sake of a little bottle of perfumed
tap water with a lump of quartz in it and a picture of a flower and a dolphin
on the label.
Behavior Restrictions -- what not to do
There are a number of things that aren't a good idea for people with Marfan.
If you have just found out about your own Marfan or that of a friend or child,
then please keep these general guidelines in mind. If you suspect that you
have Marfan but aren't sure, hold off on doing any of the things listed below
until you find out for sure.
- Sports. Hate to say it -- that's got to go. Any intense
and demanding activity that involves the risk that you could fall, hit something
or someone, or sustain a blow to your head must be ceased immediately. This is
for a variety of reasons:
- Blows to the body can injure joints that are too loose or could result
in a ruptured aorta. The first will end your sports career anyhow, and
the second could kill you. Don't risk it.
- Elevated heart rate and blood pressure period is just a bad idea for
us. Our hearts are not really up for having such demands put on them,
and our aortas are fragile enough that the increased blood pressure could
either cause a rupture, or else cause it to dilate, which would shorten
its working lifespan -- and ours.
- Blows to the head can cause the lenses of the eyes or the retinas to
detach. Although medical science can deal with these problem somewhat,
don't kid yourself. You risk major eye surgery and blindness.
This includes all team sports, aerobics, martial arts, weight training, running,
jogging, rock climbing, intense cycling, etc. It's all got to go. Yes, I know,
it sucks.
- Flying in unpressurized aircraft or scuba diving. This
has got to go as well. Both our lung tissue and the stuff that holds our
lungs tight against our chest wall is weaker than normal. This means that we
run a higher than normal risk of spontaneous pneumothorax, or what's
commonly called a collapsed lung. When we breathe, our lungs have to be able
to expand freely in our chests. This means that they have to be both airtight
(to prevent the air from leaking out and into the chest cavity around the lungs)
and fastened well to the chest wall. If either of these things is compromised,
the lungs could be prevented from expanding as they should -- and if it
happens to you, you'll know it. Pneumothorax will land you in the ER. I have
no idea how this impacts things like hang gliding or skydiving, so I can't tell
you anything about that. I'd imagine that the risk of going whump!
into the ground upon landing would be enough to warn anyone with Marfan away
from those activities.
- Smoking. Don't. Just don't. Yeah, yeah, "The Surgeon
General has determined, blah blah blah, yadda yadda . . . " Seriously.
Smoking is bad news for anyone, but it can be especially catastrophic for us,
given that our hearts aren't in as good shape, and our lung tissue isn't as
elastic as it should be. If you smoke, look into those nicotine patch
things and see if you can't get yourself off the cigarettes. Even if you
keep using the patches in place of the cigs, that's still much better for you
than smoking.
- Caffeine or other stimulants. Out the window with them.
And when I say "other stimulants," I'm including all drugs, legal and
otherwise. I don't do them (and sometimes I feel like the only person in
North America who doesn't) but I know that people sometimes do -- and one
little line at a frat party can kill you. This isn't some smarmy
"Just Say No" line thrown at you -- I'm not an anti-drug crusader. But
anything that will revv up your heart beyond what it should is just not an
option for us. Drink decaf, and stay away from stimulants. Even the relatively
easygoing marijuana cause elevated heart rate when you first take a
puff off of it. And there are
many other "natural" drugs that accelerate the heart rate; for example, the
popular Metabolife supplements contain ephedrine, which is specifically
targetted to speed up your heart. Taking that stuff with Marfan is begging
for disaster.
- Crappy junk food. Given that we're already deluged with
information about this, one more line will seem like a drop in the ocean.
but seriously -- cut out the salty fatty junk. Give your heart a break; the
poor thing's already making do with substandard parts.
Jeez, that's almost everything, isn't it? Unfortunately, yes. But things like
moderate walking, swimming, and cycling should be manageable.
Check with your doctor first! I'm not recommending anything
here, and Marfan Syndrome is varied enough that you absolutely must check
with your doctor before embarking on anything.
If you are wondering what options are left for people with Marfan, either for
yourself or a child who suddenly has been yanked out of gym class, the absolute
best option whatsoever is music. There are a huge number of musicians
among those of us with Marfan, particularly pianists. It's an ideal discipline.
It is not as physically demanding as sport (although one run-through of a good
Joplin rag will nonetheless leave you out of breath), and the disadvantages of
Marfan Syndrome -- loose joints and long limbs -- are distinct advantages in
music. I can reach well over an octave without any problems. I've known many
professional pianists who simply can't play Chopin and Joplin because of the
physical limitations of their hands. I have no such limitations.
Music can also be a good team or school endeavor through band or symphony, so
it's not like extracurricular or even sports-related activies have to be
cut out entirely if you or your child has just been diagnosed with Marfan.
Seriously -- look into music. It's demanding, challenging, fun, something you
can do in groups, and our hands are just tailor-made for it.
Clothing -- or, "I'll just pretend they're capri pants."
We've all gone through it. Someone buys us a pair of gloves and we can't
even open our hands when we put them on. We have a job interview coming
up and would like to find a nice dress blouse, but all the ones we find
in the stores come about three inches shy of our wrists, and we look like
knuckle-draggers. We try to get a pair of jeans, and we either have to
play at pretending they're pedal-pushers, or else the drop is so short that
we're on tiptoe in bare feet.
Oh, you could buy a larger pair of pants that are long enough for you --
but you'd better wear suspenders with them or else they'll be down around
your ankles the second you stand up.
And men have the same problems -- dress blazers that look like they are
three sizes too small, pants that look like you're waiting for a flood,
and drop lengths that have them singing soprano.
Where do you get decent clothing that fits well, doesn't bunch or ride up,
and doesn't make you look like you had to rummage through the remainder
bin? It's easier than you think on-line. The following stores are either
specially targetted at the taller crowd, or else they stock tall sizes.
- Tall Paul's Tall Mall
-- lots of stuff here, not just clothing. Seating and bed adjusters
are included, along with gloves, and an Adirondack chair specially built
for the tall customer. Mention the NMF in your order, and part of the
price will be donated to the NMF!
- Land's End -- I never had a long
sleeved turtleneck that fit until I bought four of them from this place.
They fit like they were made for me. It's wonderful! They stock tall sizes
in damned near everything they have.
- Long Elegant Legs -- created
and owned by a woman who was also frustrated at the lack of decent clothing
out there for tall women. Pants, tops, and lots of other
stuff -- really nice, and reasonably priced. They even stock
bodysuits! When was the last time we could wear one of those?
- Tall Classics -- has online
ordering as well, with a secure server.
-
The Big Page -- clothes for
big and tall men. You know, I love the way women's sites make up euphemisms
for ourselves (long and elegant, grand and glorious), and the guys just say
"big and tall."
- Men of Measure -- more big
and tall men's clothes.
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