Alt.Magick.Chaos Runts

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05. Rants


05.05. Thelemite.

"Who calls us Thelemites will do no wrong, if he look but close into the word. For there are therein Three Grades, the Hermit, and the Lover, and the man of Earth. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law."

Liber AL vel Legis sub figura CCXX. II.40.


From: Tyagi@HouseOfKaos.Abyss.com

>What's a Thelemite?

The word was popularized by Aleister Crowley, whom I find quite inspirational. It means one who lives by the Law of Thelema. 'Thelema' is a Greek word meaning 'will', and this Law was expressed by Crowley as 'Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.' He echoed a scripture which is important to some within the Thelemic movement, called _The Book of the Law_.


05.06. Satanist.

From: nemoiii@aol.com (NEMO III)

Two rather helpful books outside the apparent Satanic community were written by California psychologist Lawrence LeShan entitled *The Medium, the Mystic and the Physicist* (1974) and *Alternate Realities* (1976). In the second book, LeShan charts out approximately four separate but self-contained belief systems ("modes of reality")which, when completely entered, permit the individual to perform acts considered impossible to the others. The key, according to LeShan (as well as to Anton LaVey who wrote the same things in 1969, five years ahead of LeShan's publications) is to enter into a belief system in which you also know, while there, that this and *only* this view of the world is true and all others are false. To achieve that degree of belief at will is the key to effective magic according to the Church of Satan's view.

A secondary benefit to this achievement is the delightful flexibility the Satanist can enjoy in dealing with other human beings and their varying institutions. The single-belief system fanatic can only fight for his views and attempt to convert others (usually causing him to alienate just about everyone not equally fanatical). These are the individuals who will often quote from stirring patriotic themes to endorse martyrdom to the cause. The Satanist can not merely assume the belief system of the ritual and non-ritual in accord with Satanism, but can move smoothly through the midst of Christians, Republicans, Democrats, Independents, nationalists, agnostics, Moslems, racists, neo-nazis, Wiccans, neo-pagans, communists, socialists, etc. The Satanist moves like a predator through the human herd, usually unobserved, taking his pick of the best that is offered. A true Satanist can go to a party held by his avowed religious enemies and have a good time, enjoy the qualities of those who have something to offer and return home afterwards feeling no guilt or concern.

To the Satanist charges by others of "hypocrisy" are a clear indication of the limited mindset of the accuser. Ethics are a guide to action for the Satanist, not a god to be mindlessly obeyed. All this is beautifully summarized in The Book of Satan, Part 2, Verse 12 (The Satanic Bible, page 32), "Whatever alleged 'truth' is proven by results to be but an empty fiction, let it be unceremoniously flung into the outer darkness, among the dead gods, dead empires, dead philosophies, and other useless lumber and wreckage!" The key words to that quote are "proven by results." Results! That's the purpose of it all.

Nemo, Priest, Church of Satan


05.07. Setian.

From: Michael.Aquino@125-430.wmeonlin.sacbbx.com (Michael Aquino)

The founders of the Temple of Set disagreed with a May 1975 decision by LaVey to sell the Satanic Priesthood [and all other initiatory degrees of the Church of Satan] for personal profit. Prior to that time the Priesthood had been considered a sacred trust, attainable by personal merit exclusively.

When LaVey announced his new policy, approximately 100 of the 250-total members of the Church resigned on principle. These would later become the founders of the Temple of Set. It differs not only in its continuance of strict interpretation of initiatory standards, but also by an open atmosphere of communication and a rejection of Judaeo/Christian iconography.


From: Michael.Aquino@f430.n125.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Aquino)

>What is the Setian view on magickal systems, especially those of >Carroll, Crowley, and Spare?

A general answer to your first question may take care of the others as well ...

The Temple of Set approaches "magic" with a very broad brush; magic is magic, be it used for whatever purpose. It involves the use of principles which have not yet been identified or codified [or accepted by the establishment] to be classified as "science". Since it is imperfectly understood and applied, it yields imperfect and unreliable results. In this it is no different than the science of flight at the time the Wright brothers & others were trying to get an assortment of crazy contraptions into the air, usually - but not always - with comic opera results.

So today's magician must be prepared to achieve some success, but also to screw up a lot. He may take some consolation in being a pioneer, but he must also expect that non-magicians will think him a nut. Thus it has been with all pioneers throughout history. And of course some of them got somewhere, while others didn't. No guarantees in this line of work.

The Temple divides magic into only two "colors" for basic purposes: White and Black. While I could give you a variety of technical definitions, let's keep it simple: White Magic involves self-deception as well as the deceit of others, by being based on mere superstition which either has nothing whatever to underpin it or which has long since been proven a piece of nonsense. For example: Judaeo/Christianity and all "occultisms" derived from it, such as the Cabala. [Pause here for shock waves to subside.]

Black Magic is magic in which there is no self-deceit whatever. The magician knows exactly what he is doing, why he is doing it, and what he expects to accomplish. Associates or assistants also do what they do with open eyes. Persons, situations, or things which are the *object* of the magical operation may be deceived, manipulated, or otherwise changed.

In this sense a Black Magician might conduct a "White Magical" ceremony for purposes of controlling people who believe in it. But he would not believe in it, except as a tool, himself.

This dovetails into your question about Set & other gods. Set is not a cartoon-god like YHVH, Krishna, et al. - but is rather a *principle* [or *Form* in Platonic terminology] giving substance and organization to individual self-consciousness. So while you could theoretically pray or talk to Set, in actuality you would be praying or talking to the thing which makes yourself yourself - but which simultaneously enables other independent selves.

One of the founding principles of the Temple of Set in 1975 was that "all other gods are created by men". This has never been interpreted as a "sneer", but simply as an important realization of metaphysical truth. It is precisely the psychecentric consciousness which enables us to create "gods" and "daemons" to personify wishes, desires, prerogatives beyond those to which we are limited as inhabitants/prisoners of a mechanical, physical universe. We approach becoming gods ourselves - the process which the Temple summarizes as _Xeper_ - as we strengthen those aspects of ourselves which are not dictated by the objective universe.


05.08. Greetings

+ 93 ... Ia ... Nothing ...


Nothing is Permited

From: dougg@netcom.com (Doug Grant)

The supposed origin of this statement is from the Hassan I Sabbah of the Islamic heretical sect the Nizari Isma'ilis, also known as the Hashasssins. The dictum is seen by some to be the jist of the highest level of initiation within the Nizari Isma'ilis, wherein the initiates would turn their backs to Mecca and make this statement. It has also been attributed to being the last words of Hassan I Sabbah on his deathbed.

Nothing is True - Everything is Permitted is an english interpretation of an Arabic statement.

Other translations appear as: Believe Nothing - Dare All On Earth There is No Reckoning

The statement was popularized by William S. Burroughs in his many literary works.


From: "Joseph Max.555"

> What do you mean by that statement, "Nothing is true ...?

There are probably as many interpretations of that particular dictum as there are for "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law."

I can only offer my personal take:

"Nothing is True" can be interpreted as meaning nothing is _absolutely_ true. "Truth" is a theoretical construct, a model laid over reality to give it meaning. As Poincare' pointed out, there are always an infinite number of _facts_ available. "Truth" is derived by choosing amongst those facts and assembling them into a meaningful model.

It's like saying that neither the metric system or the English system of measurement is "true". As long as they are self-consistant, they are _useful_.

To quote Poincare':

"If a phenomenon admits of a particular mechanical explanation, it will admit of an infinity of others which will account equally well for all the peculiarities disclosed by the experiment."

So using physics as an example, we can say that Newtonian gravitational formulae are "true" - we still use them to calculate the trajectories of space probes. However, when speeds approach that of light, they are no longer "true", and we must revert to general relativity to obtain consistant results.

As for "Everything is Permitted", it is merely the consequence of the first postulate. If nothing is true, that there are no absolutes, the universe is relativistic (which Einstein pretty much established) and ultimately arbitrary (and Chaos Mathematics is making a strong case for that), then we are given the awful freedom to create whatever universe, whatever reality, whatever TRUTH that we care to invest belief in - and the freedom to alter that reality as need or desire may require by altering our beliefs by application of the will. This, BTW, is what we Chaotes call "meta-belief" - that belief itself is only a tool by which we create reality. It is a means, not an end; a vehicle, not a destination.


From: Balanone@tefnut.astaroth.sacbbx.com (Balanone)

Any attempt to translate Xeper literally will fail. Approximately, Xeper is most often used as a verb, referring to willful self- improvement, self-initiation, self-advancement, and similar self- initiated and self-produced advancements in being. Add to that the concept of self-creation (Xepera was the ancient Egyptian god known for being self-created, did not come from any other source). Add to that the idea of metamorphosis, like from caterpillar to butterfly, but often discussed as being from child to adult or from man to god.


05.09. Chaos Star?

"In the distance, he saw the banners of Law and of Chaos raised, side by side, the one bearing the eight radiating arrows, the other bearing the single straight arrow of Law. And over all this hung a huge balance in perfect equilibrium. ... The balance sometimes tips. It must be righted. And that is the power of mortals, to adjust the balance."
-- from _The Knight of the Swords_ by Michael Moorcock.


From: jbbell@tiguex.cs.unm.edu (Rev. J. B. Bell)

I know at least three Chaos symbols. The most well-known one in less specialized circles than Chaos Magick is the simple eight arrows radiating from a single center. Moorcock appears to have invented this one, but it's possible it comes from the U.S. military.

The next popular one I know of consists of eight rays whose endpoints define a square, with a cirle more or less bisecting the longer rays. This is a trademarked symbol from Chaosium Games, which among other games publishes an Elric role-playing game.

Finally we have the Star of Chaos that appears to be designed by Peter J. Carroll. It is the familiar eight rays, but the center is obscured by an opaque, pregnant-looking circle.

My symbological interpretation of these: the first seems to emphasize simple dispersion or ordinary material chaos. The second is more about breaking out of boundaries. The third stresses Chaos as the origin of being, and the mystery at its center.

I ripped off my personal chaos symbol from Grant Morrison, writer of excellent comics like _Kid Eternity_ and _The Invisibles_. His is more of a black sun than a star--simply a circle, surrounded by eight triangles. I find the black sun associations quite pleasing, particularly when I found much mention of it in music (most recently "Black Hole Sun") and alchemy. It is perhaps symbolically more mystical, with a "leap of faith" or intuition, or Gnosis, between the original mystery and the radiated points.

In the section on Yantras, in a diagram on p. 52 of _Tools for Tantra_ by Harish Johari, which I admit is a somewhat cheesy book, we have a couple of possibilities: one, a set of eight equidistant lines, not arrows. The header says "Expression. Dynamic." Then the aforementioned circle with radiating arrows. That says "Expansion." Not a perfect match, but close enough to be interesting.


From: v306zj7w@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (Frater ABZU)

The eight sided star appears to be relatively old, - for in the book Symbols of Prehistoric Mesopotamia by B.L.Goff, fig.45 shows one quite plailnly, belonging to the Hassunah period (7000=+ B.C.E.).


From: pali151@netcom.com (Sri Palindrome.151)

The Chaostar, is, in fact, the eight rays as you indicate. The symbol is sometimes used in physics to represent the four dimensions of matter (length, width, depth, time), and thus also represents the extension of a point to a line, square, cube, and tesseract ... by the formula:

point
"Xiqual Udinbak"
line
"Xiqual Uzarfe, D'kyeng"
square
"Xiqual Kudex, Eacht"
cube
"Xiqual Ashara, Dijow"
tesseract
"Xiqual Thaldoma, Nobo"


05.10. Kia?

From: pali151@netcom.com (Sri Palindrome.151)

Kia is a term coined by Austin Osman Spare as a label for the unmanifest portion of the human psyche/spirit/etc. Thus, the Kia is the Chaos within each of us. Being thus, it is the source of inspiration, and the interface between the finite human mind and the infinite. It's also, in a sense, the energy that causes us to grow, change, and expand. Note the similarity between the words Kia and "Ki," the Chinese word for the vital energy.


05.11. Ouranian Barbaric?

From: pali151@netcom.com (Sri Palindrome.151)

>I don't know the origins or meanings of many of the words mentioned.

The words are in a language termed "Ouranian Barbaric," which is generated via the Ouranos Rite. Ouranos Baphomet is taken, in some quarters, as the "god of magick" and source of the Great Work itself.


http://www.chaosmatrix.com/lib/chaos/ob.html
http://www.chaosmatrix.com/lib/chaos/rites/barbget.html


05.12. Colour of Magic

Humor from Prachett's wonderful book made into tragic magic by Pope Pete.


http://www.chaosmatrix.com/lib/chaos/texts/octarine.html
http://www.co.uk.lspace.org/


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